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dzioo ([personal profile] dzioo) wrote2008-03-11 07:31 pm
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fandom is lame


the reason for me writing it is simple. in the middle of each month, for past 7 years, certain cow has blessed us with one chapter. for me, those are one of the greatest moments of my otaku life. seriously, I HATE series that are too long, because usually, more than 52 episodes of an anime and more than 150 chapters of a manga, streach it to unbearable state. the plot has holes, characters become boring and such. unless the author has a great idea for his/her story...

but recently, my faith for fandom has died. while reading posts on LJ regarding latest Gundam 00 episodes or FMA chapters, it seems to me that people are only looking for "shallow entertainment" in media nowadays. they only care for action, explosions, etc. no need for intelligent plot, characters' development, establishing relationships and introducing secondary characters. when I read statements like "Graham is the only worthy thing in there, the rest is totally pointless" or "it's only worth reading when Roy and Ed are presend, otherwise it's boring" I want to smash someone's head. well sorry!! Graham is kickass, true, but why don't you pay a little attention to the world portrayed, conflicts, relations between countries and fighting fractions? why don't you care for unexpected developments or for other characters taking active part in forming upcoming results? I'm really sorry that you don't care for Hohenheim declaring war to Father or for Marcoh defeating Envy. I know that all you care for is Lockon making up with Setsuna, Graham or whoever else and Ed or Roy just being on panels, not really doing anything. don't get me wrong. Lockon is my fav in G00 universe and Ed is my Fav in FMA universe. but it pains me that people judge a series by amount of yaoi hints, not appreciating interesting universe and scenario. but maybe I'm just growing old....

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2008-03-17 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, oh, very much agreed. Nowadays people spit down on things like characters interaction. And based on the words of some jerk on the forums, EdWinry is "pointless drivel" and people are idiots for being happy about them than wanting more action.

Yeah, because PAIRINGS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN, AMIRITE? Only what they want should happen. Because pairings are so over-rated, and we're all looking for something different and tragic and dry, yes? Because a story's not good unless it's overflowing with nothing but plot, and no character interaction that happens in everyday life. (Hell, in everyday life, it's all "What dress should I wear? Would he like it? NUUUU")

They shouldn't try to change the spirit of a story. If they want no romance... they should go read Death Note! Why are they reading the FMA manga. Didn't Hughes constantly teasing Ed and Winry about getting it on clue them in, way back in volume four?

It's Arakawa's choice, and let those who want to enjoy it, enjoy it. Also, I find it hypocritical that one moment they say you don't like romance, next you say EdRose would be better?

Yeah...

Yeah, people come for the action, but stay for the characters and how the plot and situations develop. it's not all about fighting, Ed does not always win, etc. It also has fresh character interactions that make you want to jump up and down.

Quoting from a favorite book of mine, "The tale is wiser than the teller". Say, you are reading a story about a bunch of people hiding from bad guys, and at one point they hide in an olive jar-- the person who you told the story to might just be enamoured with the concept of hiding in a olive jar and try it.

So yeah >.>;... EdWinry fans find EdWinry awesome while still enjoying the story.

Whether they kike it or not, Arakawa loves family scenerios. Like it or not, Ed's prolly gonna get someone. Whether they like it or not, it just might be the one girl who can scare him and make him melt (Haha, cheese much?). FMA isn't just about how badass Ed is oh how action-y a chapter is. it's about the characters and plot and development.

I really don't see why that's so looked down upon here (prolly why I'll never regularly hang out here except for manga posts like these) but yeah... just wow. So immature, people trying to be all "deep" and going all "FMA is different and only how I see it, RAWR!"

But no, once a story has romance and thougfht rather than action, IT IS TRASH! :D YUH!

/"pointless drivel"

[identity profile] dzioo.livejournal.com 2008-03-17 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
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LOL I actually read your (?) original post on fullmetal-alchemist.com XDDDDDD but I absolutely agrre with you here, be it on that forum or LJ. it's a shounen manga drawn my a woman. a woman that comes from rural areas of Japan. so yes, aside from action and nice plot, she pays attention to characters and their relationships too. what I like about pairings in FMA is that they're quite obvious, they're probable (which means that IRL people with such characters are very likely to end up together) but they DO NOT BURN YOUR EYES. there are hints. there are thoughts. but nothing else. and it's also important part of the story because such realisations help those characters decide on their further actions. and it shouldn't bother anyone. saying "please let Rose end up with Ed just to annoy EdWin fans" is just the dirtiest and most immature thing to say. if you don't like the canon pairing, don't pay attention to that hated character. if you like other pairings - write fanfiction. but don't bash other people. internet and manga should be for fun, not to create conflicts

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2008-03-17 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, the post was mine xD;. your rant needed exactly what my posts said, and so to be lazy I just copy-pasta'd some parts here. :B

o.x Yeah. Also, apprently, you get mauled if you speak of EdWinry on the forums there normally. people are all "Edward belongs to the fangirls/Rose/Noa/Roy/OC/pie" whatever. Some EdRose and EdOC fans on DA even copy EdWinry fanarts and poses and designs and concepts EXACTLY into their favoured pair. I'm like, how petty and unoriginal can you get? have some pride!

yeah, I don't like how people get all pissed just because one fandom is having fun. Take the manga Ludwig Kakumei for example, I don't like ludwig and Idike, but I agree he did love her and I don't mind if their fans are happy for that. It's that simple, why can't people just live and let live?